Thanks Trent. I have a need for the vertical grid control of Dev Express in the medical research data collection process. Last time I checked out Infragistics ( a while back ) it did not go vertical.I am still confused. I have a dev ex grid and the BBS objects and they communicate to add, update and save data as long as I do not violate any business rules. Are you saying that somewhere without my programming a connection that the BBS/BO object is going to automatically return tothe grid the broken rules when it save the data? I did not see that if it does. I was thinking I was going to have to write code in the grid's events for validating columns or validating the row to interface with the BO's ability to validate the data and let me know the broken rule information. Please have patience with this newbie questions! Thanks.