﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"><channel><title>StrataFrame Forum » StrataFrame Application Framework - V1 » Role Based Security  » RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><generator>InstantForum 2017-1 Final</generator><description>StrataFrame Forum</description><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/</link><webMaster>StrataFrame Forum</webMaster><lastBuildDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 23:16:56 GMT</lastBuildDate><ttl>20</ttl><item><title>RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32536.aspx</link><description>&lt;font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font color="#000000" size="3" face="Calibri"&gt;I thought I’d post this just in case someone else runs thesame issue. Our shop uses AppLifeUpdate with a custom login form to update ourWindows applications. We had been doing so for a long time but recently updateson our Windows XP machines began to abort with an unhandled exception.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Debug showed that AppLifeUpdatehad failed to close the host application. After some more trouble shooting Ifound that StrataFrame sessionlock is somehow interfering with AppLifeUpdate’sability to close the host application. I’m not sure if it started with SF1.7.7.1 or some Windows update. In any event stopping session monitoring priorto performing an update fixes the problem and session monitoring can then berestarted after the update. On Windows 7 machines leaving session monitoringactive during an update sometimes results in application terminated abnormally messages,but the update continues after closing the error message windows. Turing offsession monitoring eliminates the error messages. I didn’t do any additionaltrouble shooting to try and find the root cause but the environment was VS2010,VB .Net targeting the 4.0 framework, SF1.7.7.1, and AppLifeUpdate 5.0, Windows XP SP3 32-Bit and Windows 7 SP1 64-Bit.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font color="#000000" size="3" face="Calibri"&gt;-Larry&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000" size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;</description><pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:37:33 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Larry Caylor</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32724.aspx</link><description>Larry,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I believe in my case, since it only happened with Windows Server 2012R2 which is basically the same kernel as Win 8.1, that I was bite by the two issues, closing the application normally and also when AppLife Update applied an update, so having the code to cover both situation is working for me so far.</description><pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:37:33 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Edhy Rijo</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32723.aspx</link><description>Edhy,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It's funny, the post Ivan referred you to didn't solve my AppLife issue. I've had that piece of code in place for years since I had run into a similar issue &lt;a href="http://forum.strataframe.net/Topic4465.aspx?Keywords=exit#bm4570"&gt;&lt;a href="http://forum.strataframe.net/Topic4465.aspx?Keywords=exit#bm4570"&gt;http://forum.strataframe.net/Topic4465.aspx?Keywords=exit#bm4570&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. In my environment I had to shut down session lock prior to executing the AppLife code that&amp;nbsp;shuts down the application.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;-Larry</description><pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:28:32 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Larry Caylor</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32722.aspx</link><description>Hi Larry,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[quote][b]Larry Caylor (10/20/2014)[/b][hr]My applications use a custom login form where I've added the AppLife code.&amp;nbsp; I shut down session lock before displaying the login form and start it back up in the load event of my main form.[/quote]&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the explanation.&amp;nbsp; I also use a custom login, but I handle updates in 2 places:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;In the AppMain.vb which has logic to check for update prior to allow anybody to login, this way if one workstation has updated, then all other must be updated to the same version to avoid issues with data structure changes, etc.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;In the Main form where it will allow users to check for update and install the update at will.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;In any case stopping the session monitoring in the AppMain.vb as suggested by Ivan fix the issue.&amp;nbsp; I only seen this issue in Windows Server 2012R2 not in Windows 8.1, but at any rate, I am glad it is fixed.</description><pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:56:59 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Edhy Rijo</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32721.aspx</link><description>Hi Edhy&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Just saw your post and glad you got it working. My applications use a custom login form where I've added the AppLife code.&amp;nbsp; I shut down session lock before displaying the login form and start it back up in the load event of my main form.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-Larry&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;font face="Consolas" size="2"&gt;&lt;font face="Consolas" size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;</description><pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:42:41 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Larry Caylor</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32720.aspx</link><description>Glad it helped, Edhy! &lt;span&gt;:cool:&lt;/span&gt;</description><pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 07:03:58 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ivan George Borges</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32719.aspx</link><description>Hi Ivan,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks a lot for sharing this, definitely this solved my issue.&lt;br/&gt;Adding this code to stop the Session Monitoring right after the RunApplication line in your AppMain.vb / Program.cs fixed.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;span&gt;[codesnippet]&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; '-- Run the application&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; StrataFrameApplication.RunApplication()&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; '-- stop SessionLock Monitoring to avoid error on exit on Windows 8&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; SessionLock.StopSessionMonitoring()&lt;br/&gt;[/codesnippet]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description><pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 17:19:53 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Edhy Rijo</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32718.aspx</link><description>Hi Edhy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;See if this one has anything to do with it:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a href="http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost31637.aspx"&gt;http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost31637.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Abraços.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Ivan</description><pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 06:40:51 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Ivan George Borges</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32717.aspx</link><description>Hi Larry,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I tried your solution, but still on some Windows 2012R2 I keep getting issues with the application not shutting down properly.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Where specifically are you putting that code?&amp;nbsp; &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have 2 places where an AppLifeUpdate can be done in my applications:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;In my main form, I have an UpdateController instance and I am stopping the session monitoring in the Updatestarting() event.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;In AppMain.vb I have a method that will instantiate a new UpdateController and if an update is found I am stopping the session monitoring.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;span&gt;[codesnippet]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;span&gt;Code in AppMain.vb:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;pre style="font-family:Consolas;font-size:12;color:black;background:white;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:green;"&gt;'-------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;span style="color:green;"&gt;'--&amp;nbsp;Check&amp;nbsp;if&amp;nbsp;there&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;an&amp;nbsp;update&amp;nbsp;available&amp;nbsp;for&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;application.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;span style="color:green;"&gt;'-------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;With&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;UpdateController&lt;br/&gt;   &lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Try&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;      &lt;span style="color:#2b91af;"&gt;frmSplashScreen&lt;/span&gt;.SetMessage(&lt;span style="color:#a31515;"&gt;"Please&amp;nbsp;wait,&amp;nbsp;checking&amp;nbsp;for&amp;nbsp;updates..."&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;If&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;.CheckForUpdate()&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Then&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:green;"&gt;'--&amp;nbsp;5/6/2014:&amp;nbsp;There&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;an&amp;nbsp;issue&amp;nbsp;reported&amp;nbsp;by&amp;nbsp;Larry&amp;nbsp;Caylor&amp;nbsp;at&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;SF&amp;nbsp;forum&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;which&amp;nbsp;he&amp;nbsp;discovered&amp;nbsp;that&amp;nbsp;AppLifeUpdate&amp;nbsp;could&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;closed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:green;"&gt;'&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;application&amp;nbsp;properly&amp;nbsp;before&amp;nbsp;applying&amp;nbsp;an&amp;nbsp;update.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:green;"&gt;'&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32536.aspx"&gt;http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32536.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:#2b91af;"&gt;SessionLock&lt;/span&gt;.StopSessionMonitoring()&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:#2b91af;"&gt;frmSplashScreen&lt;/span&gt;.HideSplash()&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; UpdateController.UpdateInteractive()&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Else&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:#2b91af;"&gt;Basics&lt;/span&gt;.DisplayMessage(&lt;span style="color:#a31515;"&gt;"Application&amp;nbsp;Version&amp;nbsp;Error"&lt;/span&gt;,&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:#a31515;"&gt;"Sorry&amp;nbsp;no&amp;nbsp;update&amp;nbsp;was&amp;nbsp;found,&amp;nbsp;please&amp;nbsp;contact&amp;nbsp;Progytech&amp;nbsp;at&amp;nbsp;www.progytech.com"&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;End&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;If&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Catch&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;DownloadEx&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;As&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;Kjs.AppLife.Update.Controller.&lt;span style="color:#2b91af;"&gt;DownloadException&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; SendErrorMessageViaEmail(DownloadEx)&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Catch&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;ex&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;As&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:#2b91af;"&gt;Exception&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; SendErrorMessageViaEmail(ex)&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;End&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Try&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;End&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;With&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;[/codesnippet]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;span&gt;[codesnippet]&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Private&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Sub&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;UpdateController1_UpdateStarting(sender&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;As&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Object&lt;/span&gt;,&amp;nbsp;e&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;As&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;Kjs.AppLife.Update.Controller.&lt;span style="color:#2b91af;"&gt;UpdateStartingEventArgs&lt;/span&gt;)&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Handles&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;UpdateController1.UpdateStarting&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;If&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;(&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Not&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;e.IsInitiatingController)&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Then&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:green;"&gt;'--&amp;nbsp;5/6/2014:&amp;nbsp;There&amp;nbsp;is&amp;nbsp;an&amp;nbsp;issue&amp;nbsp;reported&amp;nbsp;by&amp;nbsp;Larry&amp;nbsp;Caylor&amp;nbsp;at&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;SF&amp;nbsp;forum&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;which&amp;nbsp;he&amp;nbsp;discovered&amp;nbsp;that&amp;nbsp;AppLifeUpdate&amp;nbsp;could&amp;nbsp;not&amp;nbsp;closed&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:green;"&gt;'&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;application&amp;nbsp;properly&amp;nbsp;before&amp;nbsp;applying&amp;nbsp;an&amp;nbsp;update.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:green;"&gt;'&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32536.aspx"&gt;http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32536.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:#2b91af;"&gt;SessionLock&lt;/span&gt;.StopSessionMonitoring()&lt;br/&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;End&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;If&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;End&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Sub&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/span&gt;[/codesnippet]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;</description><pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:45:02 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Edhy Rijo</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32542.aspx</link><description>Good info, Larry, thanks. &amp;nbsp;We add a low-level windows message hook into the application to detect any mouse movement or keyboard input in order to reset the session inactivity timer. &amp;nbsp;It's possible that there was some sort of message we handled incorrectly or something else about that hook that's killing the application when you try to update it.</description><pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 09:46:30 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>StrataFrame Team</dc:creator></item><item><title>RE: RBS Interferes with AppLifeUpdate</title><link>http://forum.strataframe.net/FindPost32537.aspx</link><description>Hi Larry,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for sharing this information.&amp;nbsp; I have been having sort of the same issue but only with my applications being updated on Windows Server 2012R2.&amp;nbsp; I don't think I have any customer using Windows XP, so did not worry too much.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I use .Net 4.5, VB and SF 1.7.7.1 with VS2013.&amp;nbsp; I will try your suggestion in the next week or so which I need to release an update and see if that fix the issue on Windows Server 2012 R2.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks again!!!</description><pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 20:49:01 GMT</pubDate><dc:creator>Edhy Rijo</dc:creator></item></channel></rss>