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Installation unable to continue

Guillermo Vilas — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:08:56 GMT

Hi guys

I can't install v1.6 under x64 since I'm getting that Visual Studio is a missing prerequisite. Remember that under x64 Visual Studio is installed on the Program Files (x86) Folder.

Thanks

RE: Installation unable to continue

Guillermo Vilas — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:08:56 GMT

Hi
I've downloaded and tested the two builds added after I submit this issue and the result is the same, installer can't find Visual Studio keys.

RE: Installation unable to continue

Trent L. Taylor — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:35:29 GMT

I understand how that goes :) Yes, it is very frustrating running overall in a 64-bit OS environment. From driver to speed issues, it just isn't pleasant unless you are running applications that have a massive about of floating point operations and are designed to take advantage of a 64-bit environment.

RE: Installation unable to continue

Guillermo Vilas — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:11:53 GMT

I agree with you Trent, and I would like to add that is incredible the lack of ODBC drivers for x64, that's why I a have dual boot system (x64, x86). The anchor I have with x64 is due to a couple of software I have from xheo that I have activated there and I'm not able to activate in other machine.

RE: Installation unable to continue

Trent L. Taylor — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:53:27 GMT

We will get the installer working. I just thought that I would mention the speed and size performance of a 64-bit OS is actually worse than 32-bit for most applications...including Visual Studio since VS2005 is a 32-bit application. Unless all of your numeric variables are "longs" then running a 64-bit OS is actually slower because it has to double the size of every integer executed and convert it into a long in order to be processed within the registers.

Unless you are running or designing applications to take advantage of a 64-bit OS, then is really is best to run on a 32-bit OS.

RE: Installation unable to continue

Matthias Luecking — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:39:22 GMT

Yea i know.I should have thought this.Back top XP for now.Next time i install vista32. Hope for faster an better environments dies last.. But for counting peas the installer should work :D

RE: Installation unable to continue

Trent L. Taylor — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:22:06 GMT

I am currently trying to work through the InstallAware issues with InstallAware. We have run into several problems with the way they manage 64-bit environments lately. So we are setting up 64-bit test environments and OSs to work through the issues. Just out of curiosity, why are you running a 64-bit OS? In many cases 64-bit is actually slower than 32-bit if you are not doing a phenominal amount of number crunching. Regardless, we will work through the problem, I was just curious as to why you were using the 64-bit OS.

RE: Installation unable to continue

Matthias Luecking — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:29:28 GMT

Machine german vista 64 2 GB RAM ( all original )

Ok i downloaded the new install version.

If the this node
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\VSTemplate]
is missing the Installer still refuses to go on.
If i manually imports this in registry

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\VSTemplate]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\VSTemplate\Item]
"UserFolder"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\Common7\\IDE\\ItemTemplates"
"CacheFolder"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\Common7\\IDE\\ItemTemplatesCache"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\VSTemplate\Project]
"UserFolder"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\Common7\\IDE\\ProjectTemplates"
"CacheFolder"="C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\\Common7\\IDE\\ProjectTemplatesCache"

it went on.
But next problem is that installaware wants to install in the C:\Program Files which is only for
64 bit software . I manually gave it to C:\Program Files (x86)
Next problem is that installaware complains about my .\sqlexpress server.
But see by yourself at the zip files.i made stage screen shots.
I must say that i had no problems before even on vista64 with the old version.

Please see by yourself at the attached file.

P.S.Attaching a file here does not work with firefox but with ie.

RE: Installation unable to continue

StrataFrame Team — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:43:43 GMT

We switched to a new installer utility (from a basic VS setup project to InstallAware) and the new setup will remove all previous versions before installing the new version. So, you shouldn't have to do anything to install this version. You definitely don't want to delete your database since you'll then loose all of your DDT and BOMapper configurations.

RE: Installation unable to continue

Guillermo Vilas — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:21:24 GMT

Thanks Trent
By the way, can you enumerate the steps to correctly apply the upgrade, eg.

1) Deactivate current license
2) Uninstall all previous version
3) Delete physical folders
4) Delete db from sqlexpress

it would be of great help

RE: Installation unable to continue

Trent L. Taylor — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:29:01 GMT

Yeah, I couldn't remeber the last part....Node :) This is one very frustrating aspect of running on a 64-bit platform...sometimes things show up here....and sometimes they don't. I will add this test to the install.

RE: Installation unable to continue

Matthias Luecking — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:43:54 GMT

Hallo,
Yea got the same error on my home machine running vista64.
They is under under WOW6432Node ( you wer close :-) )

Regards
Matt

RE: Installation unable to continue

Trent L. Taylor — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:00:09 GMT

Do you have a registry key located here:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\VisualStudio\8.0\VSTemplate\Item

This is what is determining whether VS is installed or not. We are looking for a key named above and a value of: UserFolder.

I am confident that you don't so I am willing to bet that the key is under the WOW3264 key. We actually took the initiative to support 64 platforms that are running WOW (Windows on Windows). We did not used to take this into effect, which apparently your installed version of Visual Studo doesn't either. Let me know if I am correct and we may need to modify our 64-bit support to read the registry values properly from the Visual Studio keys.