I think here you'll find the biggest surprises are in the area of "Oh my god, they are already handling that" (e.g. bubbling up the sp errors, presenting a wizard to handle connection if one is not already established etc.) Wait till you see the message service and localization stuff. Roll based security very cool as well. Don't know if you looked at the DDT very much, but the SMO approach to schema changes - and the ability to easily add that into the app ala Stonefield update is pretty impressive.



I hope after a year of using this you come to the training class next year (and bring Andy) I think you'll get a real kick out of Trent and Ben and the rest of the crew. (would really enjoy hearing Andy and Ben get into SQL esoterica )



Anyway, I look forward to your insights and contributions here as I know you will bring a lot of experience and general common sense to using the product.

Hi Charles.

>> Don't know if you looked at the DDT very much, but the SMO approach to schema changes - and the ability to easily add that into the app ala Stonefield update is pretty impressive.  <<

< rof,l > and < lol >!!!! With Andy's involvement in this project as DBA, you can well imagine that his reastion would be "over my dead body!". When we were watching things in SQL Profiler, he was very upset at seeing the framework make direct calls to SP_ExecuteSQL.

Hi Marcia,

Like in everything else, there are many ways to skin the cat, and once you get to know the tools available for SF (BOM,  DDT, RBS) and use them then you will see the light at the end of the tunnel These tools are design with automation in mind, so the application can take care of itself automatically or with your assistance but being easy on your part.   Please don't show this post to Andy

Edhy Rijo