From what I saw in the demo it is very good, but I want to wait for buy it until an update is available.

I purchased the StrataTrain video. How do I get the supplement? I couldn’t find anything on the StrataTrain site.

-Larry

I've also bought Strata Train which I didn't find very useful so I'm very interested in any supplimentary training that may be available.

Cheers, Peter

I was thinking of ordering StrataTrain and wondered why you didn't think it was very useful?Can you provide more details?  What was missing?   Would it helpful to a newbie, like me?

Also they mentioned additional training material being available but give no idea about what else was coming.   Any thought of bundling the StrataFrame and StrataTrain together?

Lastly, was it worth the money? Do you want to sell you copy?

Kelvin 

StrataTrain is a great resource....especially for beginners.  As for our supplemental videos it contains more advanced videos that extends the StrataTrain Videos.  We plan to add many more videos as well over the next 12 months which will include Role Based Security, more How-To videos, etc.

I highly recommend StrataTrain!

Michael

I also found Stratatrain to be a good reference tool. However to get the maximum benefit I would recommend that new users purchase it at the same time they purchase a development license. If it were available when I first started I know it would have made learning SF much easier and faster.

-Larry

Well I wan't impressed at all - I even asked for my money back. I did all possible research before buying and, overall, it looked good in terms of coverage however what you can't tell from the web site is depth of coverage. My main problem with StrataTrain were:

Repitition: Each section is short enough befoe they spend an unbearable amount of time in section B repeating what was already said in Section A. My estimate was that maybe 40% of the content could be removed due to this repition.

Depth: There is no depth - you are much better off reading the SF help system. Let me give you an example. There is a section called RowVersionOrTimeStampColumn under CRUD Settings - this looks interesting you would think. However, this video runs for just 45 seconds!! The insight that Strata Train gives is that into this property you enter the database column name that is used if you have turned on either Optimistic Timestamp or Optimistic Row Version concurrency control - yippee I would never have guessed that! It is also an example of wasting time - the video starts with selecting the BO and navigating to the property - this entirely useless information takes up nearly half of the video. Each section within the CRUD video is like this - about 20 seconds wasted at the start of each video in selecting a BO then navigating to the property being talked about. This is a loooong time given the average run length of each video is probably under a minute. Actually, in the CRUD section of Strata Train, three of the video's run for about 90 seconds and all the rest for under a minute.

I went through the entire course once and have never referred to it again and I'm sure I never will.

I'm finding the SF help system to be very good and the forum support is nothing short of fantastic. The more I get into SF the more I like it - a bit like the proverbial onion - always more to find beneath the surface.

Cheers, Peter

Great to see you here!

I tried to find the .zip file you mentioned, is it something that came with Stratatrain?

You are not talking about the samples installed with the framework, are you? You can see them in your Start Menu, StrataFrame/Samples folder. These ones open fine, with the proper references over here. But soon the SF guys will point you in the right direction.

Are we meeting in Amarillo?

Abraços.

Ivan is correct.  The samples with StrataTrain need to have their references updated to version 1.6.  You can do this yourself by cimply removing the 1.4 StrataFrame references and adding the 1.6 back in.  Also, I am going to send you an email that has a download to additional videos that were produced in house.  You get these complimentary videos when purchasing the StrataTrain stuff.

Also, you will find that most every sample you need can be found in the samples that come with StrataFrame.  I recommend going through the sample console and viewing all of the samples, then opening up the source for those samples to see how it is done.

So, if you came from an old project and you upgraded to 1.6, you'll have to go to your main code file for each of your business objects and add the Inherits MicroFour.StrataFrame.Business.BusinessLayer line to the class definition.  That will get rid of most, if not all, of your errors; and you'll only have to do it once.  For future business objects, the template was changed so that the inherits line is declared in the main code file, not the designer file.

The only time that you need to manually create a property descriptor is when creating custom fields that will be bound to controls.  There are some samples on this as well as some info in the docs as to what needs to be done here.  In fact, the tutorial shows how to create the property descriptors for a custom field.

Hi,

I also purchased StrataTrain. How could I get the extra training material?

Thank you

I have sent this your way.  Please let me know if you do not receive the email.  Thanks.

Every hour I work with StrataFrame I love it more. It's great. There are a lot of things can be done and I just don't know how to do it. I pass almost five days crating a Custom Field for my application, once I create the first I already implemented several more in just minutes.

So, I decided to purchase Stratatrain videos, even the material is based in 1.4 and seems to be incomplete, I hope to learn some things that can save me time in my work.

If still is available the suplemental library, I will be glad if you can send to me. If require the receip of purchase I can send to you.

(For error I put a question regarding security in the Database deployment forum, if you can move the post to the appropiate forum or delete the entry, thanks).

Regards

I purchased the stratatrain product too, at about the same time as I purchased stratatrain. At the time, I did find it useful, however as the product has advanced in leaps and bounds I would consider it to be out of date.

Interested in knowing how to get hold of the extra 2 hours that has been mooted on here. Do you need to see Proof of purchase?

thanks

Geoff Hirst

I will see if I can find and post those two hours of video and just make them available...however, some of them will be slightly out of date as well.  Since we plan to create a post our own videos we have been taking a different road lately.  But in any case, we do plan to have new videos in the long-run that come as a collection as well as a number of videos that will be posted within the KB.