I edited my post below   And yes, all access on the server is through web services.

So in this case, the way i understand it, is the biz logic will take place on the server, the smart client will access it through web services.

Actually this is not a "thick client" it is a "smart client" environment.  The primary difference has to do with the handling of the BO.  For example, a "thick" client would entail that all of the BO and DAL resides on the side of the client and that the connection to the server, even though remote, may occur over a VPN.  This is not the case with the middle tier server.  The server itself actually hands out the connections and manages all access to the data within the server farm. Additionally, in most cases it is better to have the client side actually execute the rules, otherwise your server becomes stressed.  For those times when it makes sense to have the rules tested on the server, that ability exists.

As for the CTP, we do have some people that will beta the product, but they are existing customers with whom we have a good working relationship and have already commited to purchasing the product.  I am not sure if we will provide a community wide beta of this product.

Thanks for the quick reply.

I noticed that BizObjects and Daos are on the smart client side! wouldn;t this kind of structure turn it into a thick client. i noticed that the Enterprise server is used by the DAL on the client to make persistence operatation on the server, however all biz rules, validations, biz logic happen on the client side.

One more thing though, do you provide a CTP version for ppl to have the feel.

StrataFrame supports serialization and remoting and so it will ultimately be usable with WCF but will require some work on the part of the developer.  However, we have written our own Middle Tier Server that will be released in the fall.  It can literally be implemented without writing any code and a smart client application can bounce back and forth from a distributed connection to a local connection.  I have attached a white paper explaining our middle tier.  Hope this helps.

Hi,

I'm trying to figure out how would StartaFrame fit with WCF? As far as i know StartaFrame supports remoting for distribution. Is there a plan to change this in the future to use WCF?

Thnx