You just read my mind



Yes, I see the need for such a product and I would rather stay with a single vendor source instead of having to make it all work with different vendors. For example I have a CRM for my own customers, but I cannot synch this with Protection Plus database, so I have to make double entry for the customer information in order to enforce the copy protection.



What I do like about AppLife Update is that it is .NET and I can make all form's based on SF controls to keep the same look and feel as well or create my own extensions in .NET if it is not cover by them.



I really wish SF could really consider this kind of product for the SF community.

Edhy Rijo

This idea would seem to fit in perfectly with the Strataframe product line of Framework, DDT, RBS, ES, etc. 

I really liked AppLife Update after reading watching their videos, etc.  Really simplifies adding "Check for Updates" capability to any .NET application.  $799 is not unreasonable either given how important this is but I was like you and wished we didn't have to look at yet another vendor for something we all know the Strataframe folks could do.

Shoot, while we are working hard developing new product ideas for Strataframe, besides updates, licensing and registration, we may as well add the ability to do trialware.  This would be the whole package!

Something like ExeShield:

http://www.exeshield.com/

I for one can't wait to see the first beta.

Russ Brown (Using C#2010/SQL Server 2008)

Hey Russell, I just had a very interesting conversation with Brian Haas from Kinetic Jump about how to integrate AppLife Update with my current SF project.



I will work on this over the weekend and post my results next week. So far by talking with Brian it give me a great deal of confidence about their product and we spend quite some time talking about different update scenarios in which AppLife Update covers all the angles.



Here is Brian information in case somebody wants to inquire more and by the way he does know about StrataFrame framework and the forums.



Brian Haas

Kinetic Jump Software, LLC

(612) 486-9653 ext 115

Edhy Rijo

That's good news.  Interesting development.  Really fortunate that they know about Strataframe too.

I subscribed to their forum and downloaded the Limited license, etc. and was very impressed by their product.  Thanks for pointing them out. 

I wonder if potentially they could work something out to give a discount to Strataframe users?

I'm going to start selling applications in January and so this fits in great and the timing is nice too.  I probably won't start really looking at them in earnest until late November/early December the way things are going now.

By the way, their AppLife DNA is something I will probably take a look at in my "spare time" too.  I was looking at a product along those lines called Lucid Spec (http://www.elegancetech.com/Default.aspx) when you let us know about AppLife Update.  AppLife DNA is realatively inexpensive too at $330 (Lucid Spec is $499).  AppLife DNA seems much more professional although it lacks the Screen Design and Simulation features Lucid Specs has.  Alas, no one ever seems to have everything!.  AppLife DNA + Lucid Spec would be perfect if from the same vendor and integrated. 

Russ Brown (Using C#2010/SQL Server 2008)

Also Brian mention a prodcut that many of their customer use for Licensing Manager from Infralution. I will take a look at that also.

Edhy Rijo

I see that Infralution Licensing Manager is much cheaper than AppLife Update even if you buy source code and IPN.NET.

Thanks.

Russ Brown (Using C#2010/SQL Server 2008)

This is perfect!







I downloaded and installed the AppLife Update product. Using the "Add & replace files by comparison" action, I have been successful in updating my workstation's StrataFrame application. It was really simple. Since this is the free "let's-check-it-out-before-we-buy-it" version, I will not be able to utilize this in our production environment. The full license will allow some security escalation so that the end user does not have to have Admin rights in order to install the product. Hopefully, my manager will get on board with this and get this thing licensed, even by tomorrow!



Using this in conjunction with our initial rollout phase through AD Group Policy is perfect. This couldn't have come at a better time.



Thanks!!

Bill

Good deal.

It's looking really promising for me too.  I plan on using the Limited version until I really need it to conserve money but it looks like I will ultimately go with it as well.

Russ Brown (Using C#2010/SQL Server 2008)

As mentioned, this is actually something that we have done ourselves internally for PracticeStudio. The process is automated and has been working flawlessly in the field. At some point in the future, this is actually something that would be nice to tie into SF (as was mentioned by Russell). This is actually something that would most likely be tied into the licensing product that has also been requested before.



There are some really neat things going on behind the scenes right now. Once we release a SF 2.0 in 2010 then we will look to start adding add-ons like this. Thanks for the ideas

Hi guys,



Just to let you know of promotional offer from the folks of Kinetic Jump Software, LLc for the StrataFrame community.



Check promo here...

Edhy Rijo