Problems installing SF to a Vista Business 64 bits


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Hi,

I just downloaded the demo of SF and I got 2 error and the installation seems to be locked.

The first error message: Could not find file 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\MicroFour\StrataFrame.StrataFrame.AddIn'.  The AddIns file must be manually deployed.

I clicked OK to the above message and the installation continued. Then in the Configuring StrataFrame - Phase 2 of 2 I got an Error Occurred message and the installation hanged up.

See the 2 attachements for more reference.

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I hope I can get an answer to fix the installation progress, so I can test the framework.

Edhy Rijo

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Trent Taylor
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We actaully have several machines in house running Vista 64-bit, so I do not feel that this is your issue.  We have a number of other developers running 64-bit OSs as well.  I think that the problem here is your connection to SQL Server.  Have you verified that SQL Server is installed and running?  What version of SQL are you running?  If you are running SQL Server Express then you MUST have SP2 for SQL Server Express installed.  This is a requirement of Vista.
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Hi Trent,

I am running MS-SQL Server Express, please see the about info attached.

Edhy Rijo

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Do you have Service Pack 2 for SQL Server Express installed?
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Yes, I have SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services SP2 which was downloaded from http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/express/bb410792.aspx

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OK...I think I see the problem.  To correct your issue this go around, just copy the StrataFrame.pkg file from the c:\program files (x86)\Common Files\MicroFour\StrataFrame to the c:\program files\Common Files\MicroFour\StrataFrame folder.  The reason this happened is because the installation is running as 32-bit and the installer program is running as 64-bit so they looked at different locations.  Try copying this file over, then run installation again and it should load the databases.  Copy any other .PKG files from the (x86) folder over to the c:\program files\Common Files\MicroFour\StrataFrame folder as well so that they get installed.  This will include the StrataFrameSample.pkg that gets loaded during this same process.
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Hi Trent,

You are right on the spot, there is a problem with the installer and Vista 64 Smile

I copied all files from the (x86) folder to the 64 bit folder and re-run the installation and so far the data is being deployed.

Well, finally, the installation completed and will start the evaluation.  Thanks for your support!

Edhy Rijo

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Hi Trent,

Since I am still having problem on my Vista 64bit dev computer, I decided to make a Cantasia video of the most recent SF installation file to show you the process.

I believe what is causing the problem is the location for the "Common Files" and the .NET program used to Configure StrataFrame - Phase 1 and 2 which may be compiled to AnyCPU instead of x86.

Here are the values for my Common Files folders

CommonProgramFiles=C:\Program Files\Common Files
CommonProgramFiles(x86)=C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files

And I am installing SF on: C:\Program Files (x86)\MicroFour\StrataFrame

You will notice from the video that IA is copying the common files correctly to:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\MicroFour\StrataFrame

But the "Configure StrataFrame" program is looking at "C:\Program Files\Common Files\MicroFour\StrataFrame" which is the defaut for 64bit OS and of course generated all kind of error since the files are not there.

I know this has been a long battle with the installation and I hope you can see the problem now.

If I am still wrong, when you have a chance, please take a look at the video to see if you can find what could be causing this problem.   www.progytech.com/videos/SF_Installation\SF_Installation.htm

Edhy Rijo

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Yes, Edhy, it looks like not all of the processes are running x86.  Since Visual Studio 2008/2005 run in x86 mode, the files must be located within the C:\Program Files (x86)\ directory, or Visual Studio will not be able to locate any of the files.  At runtime, windows x64 will dynamically translate C:\Program Files\ into C:\Program Files (x86)\ (it will also translate the C:\Windows\System32\ into C:\Windows\syswow64\ and the HKLM\Software\ to HKLM\Wow64Node).  So, since the OS is translating the paths, everything will run fine if the install program thinks it's installed/running under x86.  I believe we have our install DLL that contains the installer classes compiled in x86, but it could be the case that the x64 process of the InstallAware program is calling it within the x64 process, so the paths aren't being translated. 

When you run the install, could you do me a favor and when you get the error, use the TaskManager and tell me whether the following processes have *32 after the process names (indicating that the process is running 32-bit):

setup.exe
msiexe.exe
installutil.exe

and anything else that looks like it might be spawing as part of the setup program.  Thanks.

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Hi Ben,

Thanks for jump in.

Here are the list of files which are related to the SF Installation:

  • StrataFrameInstaller.exe *32
  • StrataFrameSetup.exe *.32
  • StrataFrameSetup_1.6.5.3.exe *32 (This is the posted file which I renamed to keep track of beta versions).

I also sent you a PM with a SystemCheckLog.htm file.

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Edhy Rijo (07/23/2008)
I also sent you a PM with a SystemCheckLog.htm file.

Sorry, could not sent you the PM or email with the SystemCheckLog.htm file.  If you still need it, let me know so I can post it here then.

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Hrm... we're going to have to get our 64-bit virtual machine up and running and test the install.  With the install running in 32-bit, everything should be working.
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Ben Chase (07/23/2008)
Hrm... we're going to have to get our 64-bit virtual machine up and running and test the install.  With the install running in 32-bit, everything should be working.

Sure, there is not rush, I am able to complete the installation by copying the file to the Common Files folder.

Edhy Rijo

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Hrm... we're going to have to get our 64-bit virtual machine up and running and test the install.  With the install running in 32-bit, everything should be working.

Sorry for jumping in but it installs okay on my 64-bit Vista Ultimate. I do have problems with permissions with the Licence Activation wizard as it must be run as administrator to work. However, other than that the SF installation routine runs correctly without elevated permissions on my system.

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Hi Aaron,

Yeah, same thing happen with Doron's main computer, it is Vista Ultimate 64bit and it installed there just fine.

In my case there is a problem with choosing the right "Common Files" folder location at some point as I tested in my video, just by copying the files from one "Common Files" to the other one and re-run the installation everything will install perfectly, the problem is that I would need to keep doing that all the time, and it gets to a point of frustration when you are updating and get stock and have to do that all over again BigGrin.

Edhy Rijo

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This is actually a simple fix...and something did change between the last build and this build.  We converted the installer class into an executable, which is not being forced to run as x86 (32-bit).  When we do the next build I will force this change.  Thanks.
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Tranks Trent.

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Trent L. Taylor (07/24/2008)
This is actually a simple fix...and something did change between the last build and this build.  We converted the installer class into an executable, which is not being forced to run as x86 (32-bit).  When we do the next build I will force this change.  Thanks.

Hi Trent,

Just a friendly reminder Tongue  Has this been addressed? I have not run the latest release of yesterday, but in the previous one, I still had problems.

Edhy Rijo

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Well...let me put it like this, I tested it here on our test lab servers, including the Vista 64bit and it all went just fine...but per my previous experience on your machine and environment, I make no guarantees BigGrin
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Trent L. Taylor (09/04/2007)
OK...I think I see the problem.  To correct your issue this go around, just copy the StrataFrame.pkg file from the c:\program files (x86)\Common Files\MicroFour\StrataFrame to the c:\program files\Common Files\MicroFour\StrataFrame folder.  The reason this happened is because the installation is running as 32-bit and the installer program is running as 64-bit so they looked at different locations.  Try copying this file over, then run installation again and it should load the databases.  Copy any other .PKG files from the (x86) folder over to the c:\program files\Common Files\MicroFour\StrataFrame folder as well so that they get installed.  This will include the StrataFrameSample.pkg that gets loaded during this same process.

Hi Trent,

Just to let you know that the same problem still exist with 1.6.5 installer.  Crazy  Please see image attached.

P.S.

If you fix this, please send me the link for the new installer so I can test it for you here.

Edhy Rijo

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                         Hi Trent, I am running MS-SQL Server Express, please see the about...
Edhy Rijo - 18 Years Ago
                             Do you have Service Pack 2 for SQL Server Express installed?
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                                 Yes, I have SQL Server 2005 Express Edition with Advanced Services SP2...
Edhy Rijo - 18 Years Ago
                                     OK...I think I see the problem. To correct your issue this go around,...
Trent L. Taylor - 18 Years Ago
                                         Hi Trent, You are right on the spot, there is a problem with the...
Edhy Rijo - 18 Years Ago
                                             Hi Trent, Since I am still having problem on my Vista 64bit dev...
Edhy Rijo - 17 Years Ago
                                                 Yes, Edhy, it looks like not all of the processes are running x86....
StrataFrame Team - 17 Years Ago
                                                     Hi Ben, Thanks for jump in. Here are the list of files which are...
Edhy Rijo - 17 Years Ago
                                                         [quote][b]Edhy Rijo (07/23/2008)[/b][hr]I also sent you a PM witha...
Edhy Rijo - 17 Years Ago
                                                             Hrm... we're going to have to get our 64-bit virtual machine up and...
StrataFrame Team - 17 Years Ago
                                                                 [quote][b]Ben Chase (07/23/2008)[/b][hr]Hrm... we're going to have to...
Edhy Rijo - 17 Years Ago
                                                                 [quote]Hrm... we're going to have to get our 64-bit virtual machine up...
Aaron Young - 17 Years Ago
                                                                     Hi Aaron, Yeah, same thing happen with Doron's main computer, it is...
Edhy Rijo - 17 Years Ago
                                                                         This is actually a simple fix...and something did change between the...
Trent L. Taylor - 17 Years Ago
                                                                             Tranks Trent.
Edhy Rijo - 17 Years Ago
                                                                             [quote][b]Trent L. Taylor (07/24/2008)[/b][hr]This is actually a...
Edhy Rijo - 17 Years Ago
                                                                                 Well...let me put it like this, I tested it here on our test lab...
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                                         [quote][b]Trent L. Taylor (09/04/2007)[/b][hr]OK...I think I see the...
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